This could be interesting book, if all of fuss about it was truly warranted.
However, I fail to see how does being such a distant descendant of a fictional character have any real importance to modern day woman (or a man). Even if Romeo and Juliet weren't fictional characters, existence of their offspring (and descendants) would only be interesting from historical point of view. That connection would hold no significance to actual life of that person in our present. Especially that person's love life and relationships, of which I'm certain this book is about.
Well Marko, you should actually read the book before assuming what it is about. I happen to think it was a very fascinating, very well written book about the story of Romeo and Juliet tied with a mystery, romance, and a very surprise ending. Just because it doesn't interest you from a historical point of view or any other does it mean that you should write negatively about a book you haven;t even read yet. Why bother even commenting?
Probably the connection will be the same unhappiness in love, or better to say, she'll probably carry the famous curse of tragical love. I simply adore novels, movies and projects like this one, when authors connect real people from history or famous literary characters with fictional heroes and stories in their own plots.
Now, now... There are no such thing a curses in a real world. (At least I hope not.) And it would have to be a really clever connection to those characters (Romeo and Juliet) to make me believe there is any importance that they carry to a life of their descendant.
Ugh, although you all know I'm not a superstitious kind of looney, although I definitely am a looney :)I do believe that some kind of curses can exist. I tend to believe that I'm under one, a very strange and not that dangerous one, but let's not scare little kids with that :))
And I also believe in what Dostoyevsky called KARAMAZOVISM or KARAMAZOVSTINA in Serbian. The curse that you carry through your veins over many generations. Maybe she carries a curse of Montagues and Capulets in her veins :)
We all think (most of our lives) that we could be under some kind of curse. :) That still doesn't make it believable. :))
And it is a well known fact that Dostoyevsky focused far too much on negative aspects of human psyche and human lives. He was too gloomy and depressive for his own good. Or our own good if we read too much of his work. :)) No wonder he saw family curses under those conditions. I would've too.
mine is believable because it is very real and it has shown it's ugly jaws many times.
Dostoyevsky is considered a father of modern scientific psychology. BROTHERS KARAMAZOV are basically a textbook on the subject of characteristics and fatal passions carried from father to son and on and on .... The book is not totally depressive since Alyosha manages to fight back the inner urges and dark family blood.
I haven't read Brothers Karamazov. But that's because there is no real "power" in "dark family blood". It's all circumstances. (And we all know circumstantial evidence doesn't hold in any court. :)) )
Dostoyevksy may be a father of modern scientific psychology, but that doesn't excuse his single minded approach to human psychology. His characters and stories are dark and depressive. Most of psychologists (and writers) tend to focus on lighter/brighter themes in their work as well as darker ones.
Again, I speaking in general terms about Dostoyevsky, and not in absolute. As you pointed yourself with Alyosha's character.
well off course there is not real dark blood, it's the blood given to you by the upbringing, it is not inset in you system before you are born. That's what he was trying to explain psychologically - how the first 15 or 20 year of your life can influence your later life and the development of your personality. He is similar to Freud in that respect or vice versa.
I think you should read more of his novels, Bels, since in most of them there always is some light. There is always a message of believing in good morals, in love and kindred spirit left at the end of his novels. That's is why I would never call him a pessimist although his plots are often dark and violent.
I've graduated from High School doing an interdisciplinary study in psychology and Dostoyevsky :)))
I'm ashamed to admit, but I have trouble reading most of "classic" writers and their work. (...On a side note, I have great trouble when writing the word - their. Around 80-90% of times I write thier instead of thier. See? I did it again! I meant only for former word to spell thier, not the latter. :( Does anyone have the same problem?...)
But, back to my problem with reading "classics". Problem is, they are too "slow" for me. Too descriptive, with too little dialog, and generally slow in terms of advancement of a story. I know this qualifies me as a superficial reader, but I just can't help it. Last time I tried to read something like that was during my service in Army, a several years ago. It was a copy of The Last of the Mohicans, and I dropped it after first 15-20 pages. Even though it was an Army service, and there was nothing better to do than to read books.
You should consult Vladek about the spelling problems :)) Just kidding, everybody makes such typing mistakes.
I guess I'm lucky that I've read all the classic during the Grammar school and later during the college. I wouldn't have much patience to read most of it now, since there is so much more fresh books to read these days.
oh my god! that's great news. I just read this book and it's wonderful. I'm from Greece so forgive me for any grammar mistakes! I'd love to see this book turned into a movie!
hey, Natassa, welcome to HOLLYWOOD SPY. I'm glad we made your day with these news. I haven't read the book but it sounds very interesting and lovely. Love to Greece from Serbia :))
OI I've read the book. It was fantastic, and I was very disappointed when I went to the book store to find more books by Anne Fortier only to discover there weren't any. Amazing book, would be great as a film, and to answer the very first comment, it sort of IS written in a historical kind of way. A LOT of research went into the novel and it is very very well written. If you havent read it yet, go, right now!!
She wrote another book previously that was published in Denmark, not sure if it's been translated to English. I just started reading Juliet today and love it already. Hopefully she will write more and hopefully the movie will do the book justice. And Marko you would see how being the descendant of fictional characters has importance to a modern day woman if you read the book.
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This could be interesting book, if all of fuss about it was truly warranted.
ReplyDeleteHowever, I fail to see how does being such a distant descendant of a fictional character have any real importance to modern day woman (or a man).
Even if Romeo and Juliet weren't fictional characters, existence of their offspring (and descendants) would only be interesting from historical point of view. That connection would hold no significance to actual life of that person in our present. Especially that person's love life and relationships, of which I'm certain this book is about.
Well Marko, you should actually read the book before assuming what it is about. I happen to think it was a very fascinating, very well written book about the story of Romeo and Juliet tied with a mystery, romance, and a very surprise ending. Just because it doesn't interest you from a historical point of view or any other does it mean that you should write negatively about a book you haven;t even read yet. Why bother even commenting?
DeleteProbably the connection will be the same unhappiness in love, or better to say, she'll probably carry the famous curse of tragical love.
ReplyDeleteI simply adore novels, movies and projects like this one, when authors connect real people from history or famous literary characters with fictional heroes and stories in their own plots.
Now, now... There are no such thing a curses in a real world. (At least I hope not.)
ReplyDeleteAnd it would have to be a really clever connection to those characters (Romeo and Juliet) to make me believe there is any importance that they carry to a life of their descendant.
Ugh, although you all know I'm not a superstitious kind of looney, although I definitely am a looney :)I do believe that some kind of curses can exist. I tend to believe that I'm under one, a very strange and not that dangerous one, but let's not scare little kids with that :))
ReplyDeleteAnd I also believe in what Dostoyevsky called KARAMAZOVISM or KARAMAZOVSTINA in Serbian. The curse that you carry through your veins over many generations.
Maybe she carries a curse of Montagues and Capulets in her veins :)
We all think (most of our lives) that we could be under some kind of curse. :) That still doesn't make it believable. :))
ReplyDeleteAnd it is a well known fact that Dostoyevsky focused far too much on negative aspects of human psyche and human lives. He was too gloomy and depressive for his own good. Or our own good if we read too much of his work. :))
No wonder he saw family curses under those conditions. I would've too.
mine is believable because it is very real and it has shown it's ugly jaws many times.
ReplyDeleteDostoyevsky is considered a father of modern scientific psychology. BROTHERS KARAMAZOV are basically a textbook on the subject of characteristics and fatal passions carried from father to son and on and on ....
The book is not totally depressive since Alyosha manages to fight back the inner urges and dark family blood.
I haven't read Brothers Karamazov. But that's because there is no real "power" in "dark family blood". It's all circumstances. (And we all know circumstantial evidence doesn't hold in any court. :)) )
ReplyDeleteDostoyevksy may be a father of modern scientific psychology, but that doesn't excuse his single minded approach to human psychology. His characters and stories are dark and depressive. Most of psychologists (and writers) tend to focus on lighter/brighter themes in their work as well as darker ones.
Again, I speaking in general terms about Dostoyevsky, and not in absolute. As you pointed yourself with Alyosha's character.
well off course there is not real dark blood, it's the blood given to you by the upbringing, it is not inset in you system before you are born.
ReplyDeleteThat's what he was trying to explain psychologically - how the first 15 or 20 year of your life can influence your later life and the development of your personality. He is similar to Freud in that respect or vice versa.
I think you should read more of his novels, Bels, since in most of them there always is some light. There is always a message of believing in good morals, in love and kindred spirit left at the end of his novels. That's is why I would never call him a pessimist although his plots are often dark and violent.
I've graduated from High School doing an interdisciplinary study in psychology and Dostoyevsky :)))
I'm ashamed to admit, but I have trouble reading most of "classic" writers and their work.
ReplyDelete(...On a side note, I have great trouble when writing the word - their. Around 80-90% of times I write thier instead of thier. See? I did it again! I meant only for former word to spell thier, not the latter. :( Does anyone have the same problem?...)
But, back to my problem with reading "classics".
Problem is, they are too "slow" for me. Too descriptive, with too little dialog, and generally slow in terms of advancement of a story. I know this qualifies me as a superficial reader, but I just can't help it.
Last time I tried to read something like that was during my service in Army, a several years ago. It was a copy of The Last of the Mohicans, and I dropped it after first 15-20 pages. Even though it was an Army service, and there was nothing better to do than to read books.
You should consult Vladek about the spelling problems :)) Just kidding, everybody makes such typing mistakes.
ReplyDeleteI guess I'm lucky that I've read all the classic during the Grammar school and later during the college. I wouldn't have much patience to read most of it now, since there is so much more fresh books to read these days.
oh my god!
ReplyDeletethat's great news.
I just read this book and it's wonderful. I'm from Greece so forgive me for any grammar mistakes!
I'd love to see this book turned into a movie!
Natassa
hey, Natassa, welcome to HOLLYWOOD SPY.
ReplyDeleteI'm glad we made your day with these news. I haven't read the book but it sounds very interesting and lovely.
Love to Greece from Serbia :))
OI I've read the book. It was fantastic, and I was very disappointed when I went to the book store to find more books by Anne Fortier only to discover there weren't any. Amazing book, would be great as a film, and to answer the very first comment, it sort of IS written in a historical kind of way. A LOT of research went into the novel and it is very very well written. If you havent read it yet, go, right now!!
ReplyDelete:) Enjoy! from Australia :)
Thanks for visiting HOLLYWOOD SPY, Anonymous.
ReplyDeleteYou mean she hasn't written anything else beside this book?
She wrote another book previously that was published in Denmark, not sure if it's been translated to English. I just started reading Juliet today and love it already. Hopefully she will write more and hopefully the movie will do the book justice. And Marko you would see how being the descendant of fictional characters has importance to a modern day woman if you read the book.
ReplyDeleteWhere can I find this movie on the Internet?Does anyone know?
ReplyDeleteas far as I know, the film hasn't been shot yet, but there are rumors that James Mangold could end up directing it!
ReplyDeletePfff...I'm looking forward to see that movie...I loved that book!
ReplyDeleteI'm posting an update today :)
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